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Post ID	Date & Time	Game Date

#4147	11/06/2018 1:30:58 pm	Nov 2nd, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Is the Foul Hook implemented yet? I have Golden set with a slow hook, but in out last game he was pulled at 16:49 with only 2 fouls... He only ended up playing 23 minutes for the whole game

#4172	11/07/2018 9:01:22 pm	Nov 6th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	He got pulled with 2 fouls in the last game as well. This time later in the half, but why is he getting pulled early? I see my opponents get pulls after 3 fouls? Are quick/slow reversed?

#4175	11/08/2018 9:32:43 am	Nov 6th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Same thing in today's game. My Center (slow hook) was forced to sit with 2 fouls. I'm going to try setting a quick hook to see if it has the reverse effect. Updated Thursday, November 8 2018 @ 9:33:18 am PST

#4180	11/08/2018 11:55:56 pm	Nov 9th, 2002
admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2512 Hardwood Administrator	Previously only none was working for foul hook. But now I think it have slow and quick working. Steve

#4181	11/09/2018 8:33:22 am	Nov 9th, 2002
admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2512 Hardwood Administrator	So basically, the foul hook (assuming you don't have 'none' selected) works by pulling a player in either the 1st or 2nd half when a player commits a specified number of fouls. So if you player has 2 fouls in the 1st half, if his foul trouble hook is set to 'none', he just keeps playing. If it sets 'quick', then he'll sit until the 2nd half begins. If it's 'average' or 'slow', then he'll come back with more time left of the 1st half. Likewise, in the 2nd half, if a player picks up his 4th foul, he will sit until some time left in the game. For 'none', the player wouldn't sit. For 'quick', 'average' or 'slow', then the player will come back at specific time left in the game. One final note, the number of fouls and time thresholds are different between starters and backup players. Backup players have a longer leash. Steve

#4182	11/09/2018 10:02:14 am	Nov 13th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	So its not really hook then? Its more about how quickly they come back in. Hook would be more useful. I don't like my starters getting pulled 1 minute into the game. Will a "slow hook" get the guy back in pretty quickly, like a short cool down period? Do they certain for a set amount of time, or is it a time milestone? e.g. my starter gets pulled at 18:45 after a second foul, does he come back in at 16:45, or are we forced to wait until the clock hits 10:00?

#4183	11/09/2018 10:08:47 am	Nov 13th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	I had been testing out my Center with a quick hook last game. Here is is hook/return history with "quick hook". 8:32 - Game Event: Time out. Petrenko must sit with 2 fouls. 0:15 - Game Event: Time out. Worcester Polytechnic Institute substitutes ... Petrenko to Center. 9:54 - Game Event: Time out. Petrenko must sit with 4 fouls. 5:53 - Game Event: Time out. Worcester Polytechnic Institute substitutes ... Petrenko to Center. I assume it brought him back in once the clock went under 6:00 because it tries to get all starters in for the end of the game. He didn't come back in the first quarter until under 1 minutes left. Is that because it forced him to "cool down" for 8 minutes, or because quick hook means wait until less than 1 minute remains?

#4184	11/09/2018 10:12:25 am	Nov 13th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Either way, you probably want to update the description in the manual, because its not really accurately describing what Hook means in the game.

#4187	11/09/2018 11:20:45 am	Nov 13th, 2002
admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2512 Hardwood Administrator	Implemented this way because that's what I've seen most coaches do. Do you have suggestion for a better name -- i understand hook maybe give the wrong impression (especially considering how it's used in baseball). Steve

#4191	11/09/2018 2:00:31 pm	Nov 13th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Maybe Foul Trouble Bench, and then "Leave in", "Long Bench", "Normal Bench", "Short Bench" Or it could be "Long Cool Down", etc. Right now "quick" means a short bench time right?

#4193	11/09/2018 2:22:39 pm	Nov 13th, 2002
admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2512 Hardwood Administrator	Slow hook --> more time in the game, more risk of fouling out. Quick hook --> more time on the bench, less risk of fouling out. Steve

#4194	11/09/2018 7:00:22 pm	Nov 13th, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Right. Had that backwards. "Quick" means "Long Bench".

#4212	11/10/2018 2:41:22 pm	Nov 16th, 2002
admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2512 Hardwood Administrator	Still thinking about better names for it than foul trouble hook... Steve

#4224	11/12/2018 9:29:03 am	Nov 21st, 2002
Rock777 Joined: 02/02/2018 Posts: 1532 Inactive	Just change Quick to Long, and Slow to Short. With an updated description in the manual it should be obvious what it means. Foul Trouble Hook: determines how long a player is benched for if they get into foul trouble. Updated Monday, November 12 2018 @ 9:30:45 am PST