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rlawrence
Joined: 02/09/2020
Posts: 100

University of New England Nor'easters
IV.3

Hardwood College Basketball
Hey man, Hardwood and BB are fantastic and running in great order.

What is missing in this vast world of owner/manager sports games?

That's right, Football. Good ol' American Football. We want it, you need it, you know it. The internet is a veritable black-hole/wasteland when it comes to good manager football games.

Bring the scouting-contact system/league structures and Team names right over from Hardwood, and get this thing going. Even simple tactics early on would be satisfying.
Fireballer34
Joined: 02/11/2023
Posts: 80

Albany Great Danes
V.4

Hardwood College Basketball
Yes, yes, yes.
dinobassi
Joined: 03/22/2022
Posts: 1

Florida Atlantic Owls
IV.5

Hardwood College Basketball
Yes, yes and yes.
A hardwood style college football would be absolutely amazing. You’re a million percent right there it’s nothing like this on the internet for football fans. And there’s a lot of football fans.
Poletz
Joined: 09/22/2022
Posts: 2

Massachusetts Maritime Academy Buccaneers
II.1

Hardwood College Basketball
Yeah, It s time!

I m sure it would be great

Can t wait to play it
Jerbeetwo
Joined: 07/08/2024
Posts: 4

Texas-Tyler Patriots
VI.15

Hardwood College Basketball
Great idea! I call dibs on Mizzou.
bengalman501
Joined: 12/05/2021
Posts: 22

Cal Poly Pomona Broncos
II.1

Hardwood College Basketball
It would be a lot of work for Steve, so I imagine this would be a no, but if he ever does get interested in doing one.

1. Gotta be college, I believe college management games are best due to the revolving door of players, allowing for less chance of one guy unfairly dominating for a long time. Imagine if Wendt was in the game for 18 seasons.

2. Needs to have the triple option
rlawrence
Joined: 02/09/2020
Posts: 100

University of New England Nor'easters
IV.3

Hardwood College Basketball
Hey, don't be so negative! Of course it's a lot of work, but that just doesn't matter.

It MUST be done.

STEVE, STEVE, STEVE
admin
Joined: 01/24/2017
Posts: 2475

Hardwood Administrator

Hardwood College Basketball
I don't think it's going to happen in the near-term. But you never know...

Football is a much different game engine. I've played RZA for a long time -- think it's a pretty good game.

Steve
Ndsam05
Joined: 10/23/2024
Posts: 24

Saint John's University Johnnies
VI.24

Hardwood College Basketball
For the record, if this ever happened, it would possibly be the best day of my life. Getting to read those play-by-plays for a football game would hit like absolute crack.
Plus getting to make an offensive scheme, it would actually be so sick.
admin
Joined: 01/24/2017
Posts: 2475

Hardwood Administrator

Hardwood College Basketball
Have you guys tried other online football games?

I have played RZA for a long time...


Steve
Ndsam05
Joined: 10/23/2024
Posts: 24

Saint John's University Johnnies
VI.24

Hardwood College Basketball
I've tried rza a couple times, I had a really hard navigating due to needing to do it on my braille device and the website just not being as intuitive as Hardwood and Broken Bat, not to mention that I was largely confused completely apart from that. Obviously I know a cfb version of hardwood would be a ton of work, I'm just saying that I have tried a really high amount of online sports management games and Hardwood and Broken Bat are easily the most fun two that I've played, and if you did make a college football game, which is my favorite sport, it would be really sick.
bengalman501
Joined: 12/05/2021
Posts: 22

Cal Poly Pomona Broncos
II.1

Hardwood College Basketball
I've been here there and everyone online it feels like for sports management games. I've played Basketball, football, baseball, hockey, soccer, and even an MMA one. None of them feel like hardwood. I think how you have players built is a big factor as I don't think I've had two players who felt the exact same, similar who fit the same role, yes, but they were never the exact same. A lot of games I see have the same player builds over and over, Hardwood you don't know exactly what you're gonna get when they finish developing.

This community is also very different from most places, I hate games with P2W aspects no matter how small. Imagine if there was a paywall to see INTL development from their entire high school career. We already play without it but something like that would create a rift in the player base where there is always that feeling of haves vs have-nots. And I understand why games have to do this, but that is the trade-off. By having a game where everyone is on the same level is much healthier. Being in LL1 gives an advantage over a new LL6 team but being in LL1 has to be earned, you can't just pay real money for a personal 5-star, to get special scouting measures, better team development, or something else. Everyone had to get it out of the same mud and turn it into wins. I am very thankful for this game being free, if there was ever a moment when that is no longer possible I would love to see if there is a way to keep a P2W option off the table.

I think I could list about 20 things that your games do better than most/all. It is the way you build the game and make it feel is what we want in a Football game, I'm going to try RZA again but I have to say that the last time I tried it, it just didn't feel like football to me. As you said it is not a near future thing if you ever do it, but I would be the first person to sign up if you ever do. And I would also like to thank you for making Hardwood and BB. I know we ask for a lot of changes in the forums, myself included, but I think if you never updated the game again it would still be the best simulation game for at least the next 10 years. You taking the time to respond to almost every idea shows the love and care you have for this game and everyone appreciates that.
Ndsam05
Joined: 10/23/2024
Posts: 24

Saint John's University Johnnies
VI.24

Hardwood College Basketball
Everything Bengalman said is spot on, Hardwood and Broken Bat just have a different level of special feeling, the players feel super unique in a way that really makes it easy to be invested in them. I don't know what it is specifically about Hardwood that makes it like this, but I have 6 wins this whole season and for all intents and purposes it's a lost season, but I still cared like crazy when my guys got a win today because something about this game makes it so easy to really feel a connection with the players and the team. It's that feeling and the feeling of just how rewarding the whole experience is that would be so awesome in college football, like watching the game action of your first ever 4-star QB making big throws to lock up a promotion, it would be really incredible, and while that can happen in other games, Hardwood and Broken Bat and the way they feel are just on another level.

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