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cwb
Joined: 02/08/2019
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Ok, so yearssss ago... when I was but a mere Beta tester... I had pitched the idea of recruiting pipelines. I think many people enjoyed the idea back then, but we never got around to implementing. So, I'm back... with a more refined vision.

The idea is simple:
You have the ability to establish a recruiting pipeline after you land a certain number of recruits from an area.

The refined idea:
Pipelines are tied to COACHES, not the teams or owners themselves.

How many pipelines can a coach have?
Coaches can have up to 3 pipelines at a time. Pipelines do not go away, unless they are replaced by another.

How do you establish a pipeline?
Pipelines are established after you recruit at least 3 players from a given state, province, or country.

What is the benefit of a pipeline?
A pipeline makes it so that you can now recruit players from that state, province, or country as if it were in-state. Pipelines would not trump something like the Division you play in.

Do pipelines count for assistant coaches?
Assistant coaches can develop pipelines, but only the head coach will give you a bonus. Assistant coach pipelines are deactivated until they are promoted to a head coach position (but you can still see them on their coach's profile).

What happens if you hire a coach with the same pipeline as the state that you are in?
That pipeline deactivates and the next one on the pipeline list is moved into activated position. In turn, there is a good chance that, once you fire your head coach and go to view him in the coaching pool, his #1 pipeline is actually your state!

So pipelines can change?
Yes! Pipelines go off of two things: (1) the number of recruits you have signed from a certain state, province, or country, and (2) the recency of those signings. So although you may have signed 3 recruits from Texas, California, and New York, if you signed 3 recruits from Florida in this recruiting cycle, then Florida would bump one of those states from your coach's top 3.

I feel like this would add some fun strategy to the game. Do you try to establish a pipeline in a big state with more competition, or do you try to dominate a smaller country where few others thrive?

What are your thoughts?
Divac
Joined: 01/16/2020
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Gettysburg Bullets
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James Lebron
Joined: 08/17/2021
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could you please reduce that big picture a bit. it fills my entire screen and distorts this forum thread.

its off topic anyway so at the least have some respect for the person that started this thread by refraining from posting such material.

i've never seen anybody post stuff like that on your many, many posts on this forum.

thank you.
TavesSoul
Joined: 06/25/2020
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Nazareth Golden Flyers
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Love the idea, I think my only thought is would it be better for pipeline states to be treated In-Region instead of In-State? So there's an advantage, but not the same advantage as your primary State. Outside of that, +1 from me.
TPS2.0
Joined: 02/05/2018
Posts: 166

Tennessee Volunteers
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+1 A good example that could be looked at is some of the NCAA football games.
El jefe
Joined: 07/06/2018
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Temple Owls
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Good idea, but don't think the bonus should be equivalent to either in-state or in-region. Maybe somewhere slightly below the in-region bonus
cwb
Joined: 02/08/2019
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Prairie View A&M Panthers
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Thanks for the feedback/support — I agree that in-region bonuses would be better than in-state (don’t want to make them too strong).
admin
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What are some examples of real world coaches that have pipelines (in college basketball)?

Are they really on par with the local teams as far as recruiting?


Steve
TavesSoul
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Not sure if it's actually Coach Calipari or one of his assistants, but Kentucky has essentially had a pipeline here in Canada for a decade (Trey Lyles, Jamal Murray, Mychal Mulder and even Shaedon Sharpe before he made a business decision not to play to keep his draft stock). Almost got Wiggins too during that window. Kentucky is always in on the elite talent up here.

Then Maine recently for lower-tier talent. Although you could kind of argue that's been more regional proximity, as most of those recruits have been from Ontario/Quebec.

Updated Wednesday, July 20 2022 @ 4:06:16 am PDT
zachyarbrough1
Joined: 04/02/2021
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Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
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I’m a Texas Tech fan myself, and last season we had an assistant from the west coast and that opened us up to California, Oregon, and Washington to get our name in on some big recruits from that area
sparky
Joined: 03/25/2021
Posts: 31

Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts Trailblazers
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I think for Pipelines to work, we'd want to have a select group of kids from each region play for an AAU team. It could be like you'd have to spend recruit points buttering up an AAU coach, who'd then give you a better chance at recruiting players on his team.
lmartins6746
Joined: 02/26/2020
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I would think on par with in region schools is a bit much. I think somewhere between in-region and out of region.

For regions where there are no in-region schools maybe it could be on par with in-region.
mavstar21
Joined: 08/14/2019
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Wisconsin-Superior Yellow Jackets
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St Mary's has a pretty solid history of recruiting out of Australia for the past 20 years.
therelabeef
Joined: 04/03/2022
Posts: 204

John Carroll University Blue Streaks
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Pipelines would be a great idea for hardwood. Like the realisticness to real college basketball. (If you haven’t learned DePaul is high on realism
celtic4warrior
Joined: 07/02/2018
Posts: 174

California Lutheran Kingsmen
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+1 on a pipeline.

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cwb
Joined: 02/08/2019
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Prairie View A&M Panthers
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There are actually a ton of examples in real life. In fact, I remember back when I was in college that Colorado had a tie to San Antonio area and landed multiple basketball recruits from there (I think they still have Texas ties). College coaches commonly build relationships with high school coaches who tap them when a good player comes through their ranks.

Hawaii practically only recruits California and the Pacific Islands, with occasion kids from Texas.

Air Force largely recruits from Texas.

Kentucky has a coach exclusively focused on Texas, trying to build a bigger pipeline there.

And even more recently, 'Nova's coach Jay Wright had a huge pull from the DMV area. However, his retirement is likely to lead to a huge DMV recruit decline for 'Nova going forward.

Here are a few articles on college pipelines (including data/evidence on some of the ones I mentioned above):

https://www.mwcconnection.com/2022/2/23/22938964/peak-perspective-recruiting-pipelines-in-the-2022-class

https://www.on3.com/college/kentucky-wildcats/news/kt-turner-discusses-recruiting-pipeline-in-texas/

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/could-jay-wrights-retirement-help-dmv-schools-take-back-recruiting-pipeline

Also, I will say I have seen pipeline successfully implemented in other sports games. Draft Day Sports used to have a popular pipeline mechanic. Also, the NCAA Football and Basketball games had pipelines for coaches.
therelabeef
Joined: 04/03/2022
Posts: 204

John Carroll University Blue Streaks
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Hardwood College Basketball
Sounds convincing…I would like to have some coaches build some pipelines in the futre


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